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The P-51B Mustang

Now, the P-51 really comes to life. With successful retrofits of a Merlin engine into a P-51 from both sides of the Atlantic, orders were place for the new Mustangs, NA-102, NA-103, NA-104, the P-51B and P-51C. These retrofits first flew in October (RAF) and November (USAAF) of 1942. Orders for 400 P-51B-1NA had already been placed months before the successful test flights.
The engine would be the Packard built Rolls Royce Merlin 61, V-1650-3 which was rated more than 490 HP more than the Allison V-1710 at 25,000 feet! Other mods included in the P-51B were increased loads to 1,000 lbs under each wing, no more nose mounted guns (no room with the Merlin) and a redesigned belly scoop. There were many other changes firewall forward to accomadate the new engine. The Merlin used an updraft induction system, so the intake was moved below the spinner and an intake trunk installed behind the cowlings.
The cooling system was key to the health of the merlin. The front of the new design scoop was angled towards the back (from top to bottom). The scoop was lowered a bit more to get out of boundary layer turbulent air under the wing. Behind the scoop, the ducting was enlarged to fit separate locations of the coolant and oil coolers. The oil cooler was repositioned in front and slightly lower than the main radiator and given its own exit door. The main radiator door was enlarged and redesigned.
The exit doors controlled the amount of airflow exiting the ducting thus controlling the amount of airflow entering the scoop and flowing over the coolers. Settings in the cockpit could be set automatic or controlled manually if needed. The P-51 was designed to be easy to fly for the pilot so he could concentrate on other stuff like the bad guys. Alternate filtered air intakes were added on each side of the chin scoop. These were for use in dusty conditions only as it cut the intake airflow down a bit.
High-altitude performance was outstanding. The new Merlin powered Mustang could outrun an Allison P-51 by 100 mph at 30,000 feet. The USAAF finally saw the advantage of having this fighter on its team and ordered 2,200 P-51Bs. Max speed was 437 mph at 25,000 feet. Gross weight was increased to 11,200 lbs. for the -1 block and 11,600 thereafter.

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  1. Imo we dont need a P51C. We should get the turboprop mustang or the P51H I disagree - America's missing a lot of their mid-war stuff, including later models of the P-40 and early models of the P-47 and P-51, not to mention a.ton of different bombers like the early B-25s (the B-25Js were the LAST major production models), B-26s, early B-17s.
  2. Other Aircraft Sound Mods for War Thunder are: Sparta Aircraft Sound Mod live.warthunder.com And: Kiwi Aircraft Gunfire Sound Mod live.warthunder.com Sadly the Kiwi one is borked. After a post-1.87 update all the guns sound muffled, as if 3rd person has 1st person sounds.

Now NAA was really cooking. They had the hotest fighter in existence and orders piling up at the hangar door. Could they keep up production with the orders? The USAAF did not think they could as equiped, so they instructed NAA to expand their Dallas plant to start a new line for more P-51s. The P-51B model line would be built at the Inglewood plant, and the P-51C line at the Dallas plant.
The first P-51B exited the assembly line and flew in May of 1943. The P-51C model flew 3 months later. In search of even more range, an 85 gallon fuselage tank was installed behind the pilot's seat. This began with the P-51B-7NA (taken from -5 line) and the P-51C-3NT versions (taken from the -1 line). With this added range came a price of directional stability. Fully fueled and loaded, the P-51B and P-51C were a handful in take-off and climb. Pilot's soon learned to burn most of the fuel in the fuselage tank first, then switch to the drop tanks before you had to drop them and fight, then back to any leftovers in the fuselage tank on the way home and finally to the mains in the wings. Read Bob Goebel's book for a great story about how he learned about that.
The -5 block added the alternate air source on each side of the cowling with filtered air and provisions for cold weather operations. A new Merlin -7 model was incorporated into the production line at the end of the P-51B-10NA block. Horsepower was boosted again, up another 50 to 1,450 at take-off. 91 model F-6C-NA or NT were created from -10 block of P-51Bs and the -10 block of P-51Cs. They had cameras mounted in the rear fuselage near the star and bars.

Problems for the P-51B and C models included poor visiblity towards the rear and gun jamming during high G manuevers. The RAF found the best solution (at the time) for the visibility issue was installing a 'Malcolm Hood' which was a bubble type canopy around the pilot's area of the birdcage. The new hood was on rails sliding rearward for an easy in and out. The old canopy was hinged and more diffucult for egress.
The gun jamming problem was solved in the D line and a field mod was sent out to fix B and C models in service. The B and C models only had 4 .50 cal guns. This would be increased to six in the D model line.
The first operation unit to recieve the new Mustangs was the 354th Fighter Group appropriately nicknamed 'The Pioneer Mustang Group'. The B models were on station in October of 1943. Other units started to receive Merlin Mustangs in December '43 and January '44.
The USAAF soon realized that after loosing nearly a third of their bomber force on some missions, that the bombers could not defend themselves against enemy fighters as some had thought. The long-range Mustangs were pushed into service as escorts to the daylight bombing missions. Bomber crews were very happy to see them along side. Six months later, enemy fighters would not be the biggest problem anymore. But, very accurate and deadly enemy flak would be.
The 'Razorback' Merlin Mustangs P-51B and P-51C remained in service until the end of the war.

ModelP-51B / P-51C
Production1988 / 1750
Weight - empty6985
Weight - normal T.O.9,800
Weight - max G.W.11,800
PowerplantPackard (Rolls Royce) V-1650-3, -7
Horsepower1380, 1490
Propeller - Hamilton Standard 11'2' 4-blade
Max Speed439 mph at 25k feet
Service Ceiling41,800
Fuel Capacity180, 269
Drop Tanks2x 75 or 2x 108
Range1,180 and 1,900 w/DT
Armament4x .50 cal. - 1260 rounds
(2) 1,000 lb bombs or rockets
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The P-51C Mustang

In late 1942, the Brittish and the U.S. sucessfully tested the Rolls Royce Merlin V-12 installed in a P-51 (NA-91). The NAA production plant at Inglewood, Ca would be at full capacity building the new P-51B. NAA decided to expand their plant in Dallas, Tx to build more P-51Bs. The B models built in Dallas, were re-designated P-51C.

In all 1,750 P-51C models were built. The NAA model #s were NA-103 and NA-111. The first C models were P-51C-1NT (NT for Dallas, NA for Inglewood). These had the first Packard built RR Merlin used in the Mustangs, the V-1650-3. The fuselage tank was added to P-51C-1s and then renamed P-51C-3NT. Later the more powerful V-1650-7 Merlin was introduced in the P-51C-5NT and -10 blocks. Alternate air source was added early on in the first block of P-51Cs.

P51c War Thunder 9mm

The P-51C suffered the same problems as the P-51B with gun jamming and poor visibility to the rear. As with the B model, these problems were fixed at the factory and in the field.
Deliveres began in August 1943, later than the B model. The P-51C had to wait until the Dallas plant was ready for production.
Specification for the P-51C were identical to the P-51B.